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N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Simply unreal games. They are all worthy of watch without question. VOD's coming in the next week or so as well, but here are the games from my POV!

One VOD now here!

Much respect to Caesar!

Game One:
British (36drew) vs. Dutch (Caesar)
Map: Siberia
Description: Caesar does the early dutch cav start. Good scouting provides me with critical stable location info. Also as the game progresses I scout a proxy barracks sitting behind his tc. I started with pike only as I saw no sign of skirm's until this point in the game. I go for the normal brit start and am forced to buy some wood early on. My starting crates (2w instead of 3w) are not ideal for this MU. As the game progresses I loose my first push at his TC but do managed to siege a stables. I start to siege a bank and later on I return to finish the job. I had in hussars and my first batch more or less goes to waste as I'm a bit slower than normal today. GG.

www.filefront.com/1547...e-One.wmv/

Game Two:
French(36drew) vs. French(Caesar)
Map: Yucatan
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I should have won this game early on as I get a fairly large score advantage -- 140-99. However as the game progresses Caesar is managing to have a mass or musks and bows that I just can't compete with. I have some extra wood so I take to the sea. 5 docks or so end up being build by me. Ceasar pushes hard. I sneak 2 huss in the back door and manage to raid about 5 vills. I loose my tc. I have the resources to spam I just am not keeping up to speed. I was not moving as quickly as I could have been... was feeling the pressure. He goes age iii and i'm stuck in age ii without a tc and with no explorer but I don't give up. Miracle do happen, just not in this game.

Game Three:
British(36drew) vs. Japanese(Caesar)
Map: Patagonia
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Musk + cannon semi-ff. Need I say more? I go for age iii really early in this game and say to hell with eco. Who care when you have cannons? I manage to not suicide too many and I keep Caesar running around the map like a mad man. I raze his barracks, consulate, and TC, but he doesn't give up!

www.filefront.com/1548...ame-3.wmv/

Drew wins 2-1!



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

congratulations Drew!

hmm I was just not prepared for his exceptional strong britts...

Maybe I could have won the last game if I would have aged and build Yamabushi-riders instead of wasting so many normal riders...

nonetheless very good games!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Congratulations to our champion! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Congrats! Seem like great games, ill download now!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Wait a minute... We need another BO3! It's a double elimination tourney!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Sporting_Lisbon wrote:
Wait a minute... We need another BO3! It's a double elimination tourney!

The rules don't state this. They aren't the same as the Hope Clan setup.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

What? But that makes no sense. Caesár hadn't had the opportunity to lose while everyone else on the tourney did, the rules weren't correct then by default imo :\

edit: It is in the rules: "Tournament type: 1vs1 KO-System + Loserbracket." Losers bracket tourneys work with a double elimination, it is omitted that in the Winners Champ vs Losers Champ finals the Losers Champ has to beat the Winners Champ twice but that's how it works.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Sporting_Lisbon wrote:
What? But that makes no sense. Caesár hadn't had the opportunity to lose while everyone else on the tourney did, the rules weren't correct then by default imo :\

edit: It is in the rules: "Tournament type: 1vs1 KO-System + Loserbracket." Losers bracket tourneys work with a double elimination, it is omitted that in the Winners Champ vs Losers Champ finals the Losers Champ has to beat the Winners Champ twice but that's how it works.

In real-life sport tournaments that used the LB system, the final is never a win-twice scenario if you come from the LB. By going through the LB you have a more difficult journey since you have to win more games and are at a 1-strike out system.

You can't assume the finals are two BO3 when it does not say. With that logic I could concur all sorts of assumptions.

While the Hope Clan tournament may have run that way, every other venue I've participated in does not have this format (golf, curling, etc).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

"Best of 3.
Tournament type: 1vs1 KO-System + Loserbracket."

It says Best of 3. It does not say that BO3 occurs twice in the final if the loser bracket player wins.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

sounds like some great games you guys played. i will download these replays but will not view them atm because of a mention of a VOD coming ^^



gg guys , and congrats to you adam , looking forward to a VOD Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

deadhanddan wrote:
sounds like some great games you guys played. i will download these replays but will not view them atm because of a mention of a VOD coming ^^



gg guys , and congrats to you adam , looking forward to a VOD Very Happy

I will probably be releasing the games one at a time. Hopefully one tomorrow, and then another by Friday and the last game by Sunday. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

There is not a loser bracket left once the finals are reached, yes it was a double elimination but if you lose BO3 in the final, there isn't a loser bracket to go to any more.... it's the final.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

finals should have been BO5 maybe

anyways, congrats to both of ya, simply amasing players!
Good job Drew on taking the crown Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

Great games guys! Congrats to my fellow Canuck, and very WP be Caesar too!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: N3O Finals: 36drew vs. Caesar Reply with quote

They're all BO3, but there would have to be another BO3 if the LB champ won (2 BO3 =/= BO6)

My bad then, next tournaments we'll do that, I thought everyone understood it worked that way ^^''

Anyway, it was well deserved Drew! Me and Caesár have got to practice quite some to beat you next time hehe

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